Saturday, July 26, 2008

Soy Isoflavones - The Natural Clomid?

I have been doing some research on Soy lately as I have been contemplating trying it to see if I see any changes.

Up until now I have avoided soy as I had heard it may impact fertility, but interestingly I'm now finding a lot of conflicting reports and some that say that soy is actually HELPING women fall pregnant.

I found this interesting article (reprinted from TwoWeekWait) which had this to say about Soy Isoflavones.

"TTC Trend Watch ~ Oh Joy! Another Soy BFP!

If you've been surfing TTC boards online recently, you've probably run across several posts from women proclaiming the mighty power of "Soy Isoflavones." If not, you are probably thinking "Soy Isowhat?" Yes, my TTC friends, the underpriviledged step sister to the infamous Clomid pill has made her big stage debut... and she's garnering some impressive reviews. But before you stop reading the rest of this article and burn rubber to the nearest vitamin store, let me encourage you to research it for yourself before trying any new supplement regimen. (And as always, you should consult your doctor trying anything new.) But I digress...

"Soy Isoflavones" is a natural plant derived phytoestrogen (phyto means plant), which is an anti-estrogen, just like Clomid. Both are known as SERMs (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators). It works by fooling your brain into thinking its estrogen levels are low. This causes your body to reslease more FSH & LH which helps stimulate follicle production (same as Clomid). You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on CD 1-5 or 2-6, or 3-7 or 5-9. It is not thought to cause infertility if it is only taken for 5 days a month. There is not much published information available on it regarding TTC, because it is "natural", not patented by the pharmaceutical companies, and not FDA approved. Most doctors will also not recommend it for this reason.

Recently, many women on FertilityFriend.com have been taking 150-160mg a day for 5 days at the beginning of the menstrual cycle (on days previously mentioned). Side effects reported are similar to Clomid. These vary from increased number of headaches to hot flashes. It has been suggested that taking the dosage before bedtime lessens the side effects.

I was doing some research on FertilityFriend.com to uncover just how many girls have recently conceived while on Soy Isoflavones and what days they took the supplement. I found a girl who took it on CD 1-5, 200mg Soy Isoflavones, and she got a strong BFP at 15dpo that cycle. Her chart can be viewed here. Her HCG levels at 15dpo were 443 and at 18dpo HCG 1,347. Impressive. I found a survey on FF that was interesting as well:

What was interesting is that 75% of the women who tried Soy Isoflavones got a BFP in their FIRST cycle trying. I checked the survey more recently and the number has jumped to 77% since I took the screenshot.

While Soy Isoflavones can help bring on an earlier or stronger Ovulation for these women, I must note that in some women it did not help at all. Just like Clomid doesn't always work for everyone. Right now there are a lot more women trying Soy Isoflavones so I will continue to monitor their progress and report back any news I find.

written by Elle (Founder of TwoWeekWAIT.com)"

Interesting huh! I might try it next cycle to see what happens!

107 comments:

Melinda said...

Are you having ovulation issues as well as a short luteal phase? Clomid (and soy) are used to stimulate ovulation, I wouldn't have thought they would have an effect on the luteal phase? That's a really interesting article, it will be interesting to see how these women taking it go in the future.

Tracey said...

I thought it was interesting too! As for me, I do ovulate but ov late, and re-reading Infertility Cure again it is possible that the reason for my short luteal phase is that I don't have enough of BOTH hormones (not enough estrogen to produce enough progesterone to sustain luteal phase).

Not really sure, but I guess it can't hurt to give it a try one month to see what happens.

Valerie said...

I did my research on this product when I was trying to conceive. After TTC for awhile, I got pregnant on my first cycle using soy isoflavones. I got pregnant again with my second child on the first month I used the soy isoflavones. Both my kids were full-term, healthy babies, and I didn't have any side effects. My cycles returned to normal after having baby #2. I will use it again when we are ready for baby #3! It's less than $6.00 at Walmart, all-natural... I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

Erin said...

Thank you so much for compiling this information. I have recently been seeing posts about "soy iso" and in looking it up I stumbled onto your blog. I've been ttc for 13 months now with no success. This definitely is something I will look into.

Anonymous said...

I also tried soy after ttc for 18mths, i'm 40 years old, i took 200mg of soy on days 3-7 and got pregnant first month trying it.My baby is now 8 weeks old.

Anonymous said...

I took soy isolflavones and the first month trying i got a bfp! Unfortunately it ended in a miscarriage. So I am trying again.

Anonymous said...

I used it. I took it from day 5-day 10. On day 5, I took one pill. I upped it one pill every day until I reached day 10. I got pregnant the first month.

Anonymous said...

I am the person who posted above. I forgot to mention I am 41 years old. It worked great for me!

Lainey said...

I took soy isoflavens this past month (december) and BAM pregnant! SHould be interesting to see how many are in there?!??!?!

Anonymous said...

Hi im a Mum 40 wanting to conceive have lost two in lst two years at 9 weeks pregnant. Looks like the majority of you agree this works. I have accidentally fallen pregnant with clomid fast but its expensive here in nz .Love to hear anyones thoughts. Pamela

Anonymous said...

I took soy iso's on days 3-8 this cycle. Yesterday was day 14 of my cycle and I started bleeding. I went to the docs who said it could be implantation bleeding as it was light. Overnight however it's got really heavy, just like a period, anyone got any advice/experience with this.
Don't know whether to count it as a period and start the soy iso's again tomorrow or what!? Please help!!

Thanks
Kat

Anonymous said...

I used clomid before and was looking for something else natural n cheaper. Im so impressed with the results most have had.Im excited to try the soy iso n hope it works. Good Luck to all!

Anonymous said...

How does one determine which five days to take the soy isoflavones? For example, who should take it on days 1-5 and who should take it on days 3-8, etc?

Anonymous said...

After two infertile years, I used soy isoflavones and conceived the first month. It does work! Sadly, I lost Angel Noel on New Year's Day 2011 at 11 weeks. I am trying it again this month. Prayers for a healthy baby appreciated.

mina ab said...

to anonymous dated march 25th at 4am

okay so ive tons of reserach and it is best to only take 180-200 milgrams for only 5 days the best results have come from days
1-5, 3-7, 5-10
it is best to take the soy isos later in the night because u can get headaches, I did so itook them right at bed time with a few crackers and lots of h2o thru out the whole day when u drink lots if water u will notice more cervical mucus therefore ur more fertile. i hope this helps but please post if you have more questions

Dana Herbert said...

Hi Mina, I am Anonymous at 4am. I just found this study on Clomid Days 1-5, says it is superior to days 5-9 and at 100 mg dose (equivalent to 200 mg soy isoflavones).
http://www.fertilityties.com/post/show/a-study-done-for-clomid-cd1-5
After TTC for three months, my cycle started on the 24th and I have been taking 220 mg. soy at night, CD 1-5. I am getting headaches during the day.
xoDana

Dana Herbert said...

Headaches stopped after two days. Had regular period for CD1-CD3 and then spotting CD4 and today (CD5). CM was dry and sticky yesterday and clear and wet today. Unusual for me so soon after my period.

mina ab said...

HI Dana, so using soy isos hopefully worked for both us!!!! Keep me posted as I will keep you posted as well so if you period was on the 24 th then hopefully u ovul around april 4-6 I ovul early on day 12 my first try this time I ovul day 14 but I used the clearblue easy opk the one for 30 days it totally works I think ;0)

The headaches are common so take them b4 bed with lots of water

im gonna take a pg test april 8th pray its positive :0)))) ill let u know

Best wishes to u guys !!!!! ~mina xoxo

ladie said...

Hi I'm new to this site and I am 21 yrs old me and my boyfriend have been trying 2 concieve since our miscarriage last june. The rest of the year we have been trying 2 concieve but no luck and for the past 2days I've been doing research on soy iso and think I'm gonna give it a try but I need a little advice my period is very irregular and there is no telling when I'm ovulating so how do I take it and oh on top of that my cm is very thick at all times sum plz help.

Anonymous said...

Iv been thinking about these for a wile now but never been brave enough to take them. But after 15 cycles, two MC and 4 chemicals, i thinks it's time to give them a bash, I have everything crossed xxxx

Saara said...

I have a question. I just started using Soy Power vitamin with ingridient:sem glycine 25mg, radix paeoniae alba extractum 100mg, ganoderma 50mg, soy isoflavones 25mg and it is to be taken 1 capsule twice per day. Will it help me ovulate? Is this vitamin different from the one you are talking about?

Please help, i want to conceive.

Anonymous said...

I just bought some soy iso today. I am on cd 5 and af is almost gone. just a tiny spotting. Is it ok to take it now cd 5-9? I usually o on cd 15 and have a 28 day cycle.

Monica said...

I just bought the pills at walmart I want to know is if you need to take two tabs to get 80 mgs. SO does that mean i need to take 5 pills can some one help me. I want to start tommorow thanks.

Monica said...

Hi I want to know if i need to take 5 40 mg pills to make 200 mg requirement. That sounds like too much but each is 40 mg they are from Walmart Spring Valley.Thanks to anyone that can help.

Anonymous said...

I have read that you do take as many tablets to make up the 200mg. I am in Aust. and the only soy I could find is 500mg and I started yesterday being days 3-7 so I hope it is not to much per day.
Mel

Anonymous said...

I took clomid previously and decided to go the natural route with soy. I took it for the first time last month 40mg 5 pills for 5 days and now even with my pcos im late but been having upset stomach and tiredness. Took a blood test today and results on friday, im so nervous and anxious. Will report back then. Praying it worked if not will keep trying.

Anonymous said...

I got BFP first cycle too! My dd is now 6 mo!!!

Anonymous said...

i am on another ttc forum for women who have had tubal reversals... I like many others on that forum took Soy Iso. and got a BFP right away, only to have it end in miscarriage. Is their any link between soy and miscarriages? Does anyone know if it makes your progesterone drop once you do get pregnant???

Anonymous said...

I'm menopausal and ttc. My periods had stopped for a year. The hot flushes were driving me crazy and unbearable. I didn't want to risk taking HRT because of breast cancer in the family. After research I found Soy isoflavones and have been taking them now for about 4 months. Although advised to take 2 a day for max effect I only took the 1. The hot flushes stopped immediately. I feel so much better in myself. Also the past 2 months my periods have naturally started again which might mean I don't need to take birth pill to start cycles for my next round of IVF. So I'm a happy bunny :o)

Anonymous said...

This is my 3rd month ttc. I am trying soy isoflavones for the first time this cycle. I took it cd3-7. Cd 3-4, i took 160mg, cd5, I took 200mg, cd6-7 I took 240. I had some headaches. I did get some hot flashes and sweating a bit. I felt more tingling in my boobs than i usually do during my fertile window, very lubricated (very) and BD is about 50x better for some reason!!! So I think the soy is definitely doing something over here. I am so praying that I get to tell him Im pregnant. Im praying that we all get our soy bfps! i am currently on cd 16 so I am still BD'ing for the next couple days before hubby goes out of town to work.

Cherry said...

I was wondering does it matter if you cycle only last five days? I started day 4 of my cycle? I read I could do a 4-9? I will try next month 1-5 I guess next month as I think I did it wrong =/ any advice would be appreciated. Thank you ladies.

suzanne said...

ok ladies! i have just brought this... im in australia and the mg is 500 so im gathering that im going to have to cut the pill to get the 200mg dosage???
such great results! fingers crossed that it happens for everyone!!!

does it matter that i dont have a regular period? also, does it matter what days (1-5, 5-9) that i take it?

AND: do i take 200mg PER DAY for the period above?


if this works - im going to fall off my chair!

Anonymous said...

We are currently only on our 2nd cycle of trying. The first cycle, I ovulated on day 28. We had good timing but it didn't work out. I'm now on day 26, still waiting to ovulate. It's too late for me to try this cycle but if it doesn't work out again this time, I am going to pick some up and see if it helps. I just hate waiting so long to ovulate. I would love to see this work!

suzanne said...

to anyone that comes back to this blog as i dont get messages to say there is a new post - let me know how it works out for you as i am really looking forward to this once it arrives in the mail :) fingers crossed for everyone wanted to use this...
zannyanny_72@hotmail.com

Lauren said...

I started using this for the time this month. I did CD 3-7 for mine and started out at a low dose and moved up to 200mg by the 5th day. I had horrible headaches with it! We start BD every other day as soon as my cycle stopped. I finally got a + on my ovulation test on my 16cd but the last time we did BD was 14cd. Since I work 24hr shifts we were not able to have BD when I got the + ovulation. I am still praying that just maybe it worked! I am now at cd22 (which would be implantation day if anything is there). So lots of prayers that it worked! I am just curious though from the ladies that it has worked with...have any of you not been able to get pregnant because of your husband having issues and not you but Soy worked for you? LG

clomid said...

Clomid is inexpensive and is usually the first in a line of treatments that will be offered to the patient and its works most of the time

TTC28 said...

Hello ladies, I need major help. I am going to buy th Iso tonight but I am a little confused. I have PCOS and maybe have a period every 4-5 months. How do I determine when to take the Iso? My doc has given me provera to bring on a period. Wha do I do. I am very excited for the day I can tell my hubby the great news...we have been trying for 5 years. Please help.

Anonymous said...

TTC28, After you finish the provera and start your period you want to count the first day of full flow as cycle day 1. Then you'll want to take the pills on the recommended cycle days. I have PCOS as well and don't ovulate on my own. You will probably want to check your temps or use OPKs to make sure you actually do ovulate.

TTC28 said...

Thanks so much...I am definately gonna give it a try and report to you guys. Thanks again.

keisha said...

hey i have been ttc for about 4 years and i finally got pregnant in march but i lost the baby and i have been trying again since and nothing happened i ran a cross the blog so im really gonna try this but i only get a period for 3days so can somebody plz tell me how i gotta take the soy iso i want a baby so bad im willing to try and thing

Anonymous said...

Your Soy Iso bottle may say 500, but you have to know what % is actually soy iso mg. it's easier to just get the $6 ones from Walmart.com because it's not written confusingly. 40mg right on the front of the bottle. I brought a 200 bottle from GNC but when I looked closer on the back, it's only 34mg of soy iso for real. #readlabelscarefully

Anonymous said...

I had ovarian drilling in Sept and just started my first period after it. This will be my first month of Soy Iso, Today is CD1 and I am taking 160 mg. I am going to go buy a ovulation kit tomorrow. Praying this is our month

Anonymous said...

I researched all our options after doctors had told us I dont ovulate and wouldnt conceive on our own. I figured id gift soy iso a try before spending tons trying to get pregnant...after 3 months of taking them day 3-5 im now 5 weeks pregnant!!!

Anonymous said...

Hi my husband and i have been trying to have a baby for 2 years now and the doc told us i have pcos i ran across this blog and i am going to try the soy iso tonight i started spotting two days ago so i think this will be cd 3 for me please pray and keep us in your hearts im preying it works if it does i will give you all an update keeping all my fingers and toes crossed.

Anonymous said...

Hi Ladies;
Me and my husband have been TTC ever since we had our first miscarriage back in 2009. I've have always had irregular cycles but after i had my first my cycle became regular like clock work. Then in when I had my miscarriage it became irregular and been since then with no change. A friend of mines told me about soy isoflavones because she used it and became pregnant within the first month. So I'm wondering could soy isoflavones help regulate my cycle but taking it for the 5days that my cycle is suppose to be on?

Anonymous said...

I had a miscarriage in Sept. 2010 and have been TTC since. I'm thinking my age (41) is a major factor. I purchased Soy Isoflavones today and am hoping to be able to report some good news soon. I've enjoyed reading the passed posts, nice to know I'm not the only one :)

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering why it is that all of the documentation that I've been reading recommends taking the soy on CD 3-7 or CD 5-9, but many on this site are going cd1-5???

Binkadv said...

Day 1-5 increases the chances of multiples
Day 5-10 produces a stronger egg
And all days in between have the medium results

79%get their Bfp on the first cycle and 53% of the remainder get pregnant the second month.

I have done a lot of research and statistics working out how helpful these are in the past 3 years ttc (didn't want to take something unless I was sure it was worth it) I will now be trying them this cycle :)

Good luck everyone

Alena said...

How long after you stop birth control should you wait before you start taking Isoflavins? I have one child and a secondthat ended in a miscarriage that ended one day before my 16th week. It also took awhile before becoming pregnant the second time around.

Anonymous said...

And just curious...ive heard that soy iso usually results in a boy baby... what gender baby are you all having or did you have on soy iso?

mamamchpherson said...

These are a bit dated, curious.. who now has a baby due to Soy?

Anonymous said...

I was wonder if the soy iso would help regulate my periods if taken every day? I am a 25 years old and I was diagnoses with POF 3 years ago. I do not have a menstrual cycle without taking bc....if anyone has any info please let me know!

Kate C said...

Wow. I am definitely going to try this stuff next month. I'm already on cd 10 so its a little late this month. I really hope I get positive results. We have been wanting a baby for our whole marriage. We will celebrate 10 years in March. I was only on bc for 1 year that whole time.
Well good luck and baby dust to all!

alicia said...

Can u take soy isoflavos if you get your period regularly every month ??

alicia said...

Also wat do all these abbreviations mean :-/ ..??

mamamchpherson said...

My periods are very regular and I took them this month. I just want to have a more intense Ovulation and catch that egg! I will let you all know what happens. I hope all the others get on here and let us know if they are indeed pregnant.
Good Luck everyone!

Jenny said...

Hi. I am 43 and I have had 2 cycles of IVF because we have been TTC for a while with no result. My first child was conceived first go. So we are trying Soy for a couple of months as a last ditch effort. AF started today so I am going to start taking Soy on day three. The only concern I have is the dose. I know I should take 200mg but my bottle says that I should take 5 tables and doesn't really say what each tablet contains. I am using the brand Natrol. Has anyone used them? Should I just take the 5 tablets as suggested?

Anonymous said...

Hi i want to try these out but dont know how to take them... help please...
thanks

Anonymous said...

My husband and I are ttc our second baby and I am excited to start the soy this month!! My friend actually found out on Valentines day she was pregnant and took soy for one cycle! Amazing! I'm praying this works for us :)

rachael said...

Rachael- how do i take soy if i dont have a period?
please help me was on the depo 9 years and need help the docs wont help me xx

Lisa said...

I am now 8dpo, I did Femara this cycle (cd3-7), & had +OPK on CD15 which was a few days earlier than expected. I have PCOS & Hypothyroidism. I take 2000mg of Metformin & am now up to 50 of Synthroid. I had 3 children & 1 previous miscarriage, but have been TTC now for over a year w/my fiance (not the bio father of my previous pregnancies). We are not sure if he is ok (fertility wise) since he has no children & I obviously have some issues, but am trying to take care of that. I don't have insurance for fertility treatments or anything like that, so it's been just a lot of personal research & prayer. If this cycle doesn't work than next cycle I am going to take the last of the Femara I have & I think I am going to get the Soy Isoflavones (maybe I will take them together to see what happens) too. I am 32 & will also be going on some other herbs as well as my favorite whole food multi-vitamin/mineral Alive. I'm praying we all have amazing stories to tell very soon!!

Anonymous said...

Hi, I am currently TTC my 4th child. My first was conceived unplanned but after he was born I was diagnosed with PCOS. I rarely get a period on my own without being on BC pills & rarely ovulate on my own. When I was TTC my 2nd I tried for 18m but never ovulated so my doctor put me on clomid, 50mg on CD1-5 & I conceived first round. Then when we wanted to TTC our 3rd my doctor just gave us clomid again right away, 50mg on CD1-5 again, worked right away but after I found out I was pregnant I started bleeding & found out I had severely low progesterone (6.5) so my dr put me on progesterone & bed rest and my daughter was fine.

So now TTC our 4th I am trying to go a more natural route for a few months at least, so if I am not pregnant this cycle then we will be trying soy isoflavones next cycle :)

CONGRATS to all you who have had luck so far!!! ***baby dust to all***

Sweet Hold 'Ums said...

Tried the $9 bottle for 1 cycle & got pregnant! I just found out today & I'm 2 weeks along. Only side effect was night sweats. I'm 31, 5'4 & 120 lbs. tried for a year & had 1 miscarriage. Best wishes!

Anonymous said...

Natrol soy isoflavones is what I have. They are 50 mg and I take the recommended 5 for 5 days. This is my first cycle and I'm coming off birth control so I don't know the results yet. I am wondering for those who have taken these, have any of you used any methods for gender selection? Also, what gender child did you conceive? Lastly, has anyone conceived multiples with this using no other form of help?

Anonymous said...

The Natol brand has 50 mg and I took the recommended five for five days. This is my first time so I do not know the results yet. I am coming off birth control and some people, including those who do not know I am taking it, say that I will get pregnant right away.

dahlia said...

Hello Ladies I am 38 years old trying to concive for the last 3 years after having 2 kids already with my husband Last one was a c section after that not being able to get pregnat anymore. i seek doctor advice and all testcame up normal with ovulation and my mens are regular,he reffer me to a infertility doctor and he said I might have scar tissue and myaibe endro. he is not sure ionly if he is doing surgery>>> I don't want surgery and have no money for ivf should I try iso even I have regular oeriods and ovulate on my own???? nayone got pregnat on this accutally have a ressult in a live birth? anad what is the gender?

tonya said...

hi,just wanted to say ive never posted i before.but i thought i needed to,iam 39,2 years ago i got my tubal reversal and got pregnant and lost it due to a blighted ovum,well a few months back i started reading up on soy isoflavins and i took 2 cycles of them i am now 7 weeks pregnant im thinking twins im getting big fast and the morning sickness is terrible.but i just wanted to say it worked for me i hope you all are as lucky as i am.i go to dr.april 17 for ultrasound i will keep you all posted....

tonya said...

also wanted to say i did have regular periods also and ovulated and tried soy anyway and it took 2 cycles and it worked

dahlia said...

How do you take the capsule ? when do I start and how many days ?
I don't understand a lot of these cods I am new to this . Can someone help me please !

dahlia said...

I start taken the pill on my first day of my cycle?for 5 days???
Please help My cycle start soon like in 2-3 days
Thank you

tonya said...

i took 200 mg the first month for 5 days while on my cycle and nothing happened so the next month i took 160 mg for 5 days and i am 2 months pregnant now

mamamchpherson said...

Congrats Tonya! I did 180 the first cycle, 200 the second and now the third I just did 160 (each day for 5 days) I hope I can follow in your footsteps!

dahlia said...

My capsule are 100 mgnon GMO iso. and 40%extract iso so how many do I take 2 capsule or 5 so I make it to 200 according to 40% The brand is Naturar's Way
Please help I am confused

tonya said...

I'm not sure but here is what i took it was called "healthy woman" i bought it at walgreens and it was 55 mg soy isoflavins.im sorry Dahlia i dont know how many i would take.but good luck and keep me posted.and thank you Mamamchpherson i hope it works for you all too,and it will just have faith.God bless.

Cynthia said...

Im 38 bn diagnosed with pcos an bn TTC for years now I really wanna know how this works I see all the great posts and I hope to be one as well so im going to try it and pray tgat it works I dont understand what you all mean by the terms cd 1-5 and the other abbreviations please specify for me im new to this Thanks Cynthia

tonya said...

1-5 means the first day of your cycle thru the fifth starting on day 1.hope this helps

Cynthia said...

Thanks alot that was very helpful!!!!

mamamchpherson said...

Sorry, that was confusing. Mine were only 30mg so I had to actually split the 7th when I was taking the 200mg. You can do and days in the first week of your period. 2-6 or 1-5 or 3-7, I think. I read all about it on babycenter.com, so much info on that website. By the way I am 41, so I will keep you all posted. Thank you for any prayers or good thoughts. I need them. Oh, and I bought the health food store type and it was 15.99! I got suckered! Good luck to all of you. MM

tonya said...

just to keep you all posted i had an ultrasound yesterday we seen baby, the heartbeat was 163 beats per minute it was so awesome.i am 9 weeks today.good luck to you all and God bless.

Anonymous said...

How would you take these I'd you do not have regular periods?

Anonymous said...

Hello everyone. After a lot of research and reading, and 9 months TTC our 2nd, we have decided to give Soy Isoflavones a try. This is my first cycle with Soy, 150 mg a day from CD3 to 7. I have anovulatory cycles every now and then and decided that is worth the try. This month I'm also charting my temps and using OPKs so I guess I'll have a good chance to see if this works or not. I promise I'll be back to let you know if I get my BFP in a month or so. FX and baby dust for all of us!

Pamela said...

I wondered... for anyone that took soy if they miscarried. The first time I took it I did get pregnant... but I also miscarried. I've been researching as well... and notice that there are quite a few women who take it, get pregnant and go on to miscarry. Any thoughts? Has this happened to anyone else?

Anonymous said...

I've been reading all of the above posts and am so excited to hear all the fantastic Baby news. My Husband and I are trying for a baby and I am taking Soy Isoflavones as I don't have a period at all. Can someone please tell me how many days I should take the tablets for?
Thank.

Anonymous said...

I'm the same way.. I'm lucky if I have two cycles a year.. and My Dr said even then I'm not really fertile.. basically all the "trash accumulation " on My uterus is falling down..
Just started soy today.. :) because I actually menstruated.. we will see

Anonymous said...

Hello ladies! Your stories all sound so promising! My husband and I have been ttc for over a year now and we are ready for that BFP ! I have tried using opks, preseed, prenatals, all kinds of positions and nothing at all. The doctors claim we are both fine but we have never gotten pregnant. I have been reading about soy iso on different forums and I got interested because of all of the success stories I've read. Its too late in my cycle to try it now but I will definately be doing more research and try next cycle! I'm assuming I should pair it with opks to pinpoint ovulation. I wish all of you ladies will conceive and have h&h pregnancy ! BABY DUST ! =)

Anonymous said...

Dear ladies, thank you so much your stories are giving me hope. I live in London, have PCOS and been trying for 1 year now. Was put on Metformin since Jan had two period feb and March but since then no period. Now I really would like to get pregnant as I am getting really really worried. How do I decide which day to take these soy isoflavins? I was going to push my GP to put me on Clomid.

Anonymous said...

I don't have a period and im ttc bby #2 what can i do my ob doc won't help so i need some advice

Anonymous said...

Hi Ladies :-)

I have PCOS and have been TTCĂ­ng for 5 years this August. This is my 1st cycle trying Soy and can I just say I think it has worked to bring on ovulation. I have been temping and using OPKs and looks as though Im about to ovulate. I havent had this much Egg white cervical mucous for over 9 years. I am so wet down stairs and I do believe it is from the Soy. Fingers crossed and baby dust to all. I will update if I get my BFP...if not then atleast i know its working to bring on the big "O".

Sam xo

Anonymous said...

What brand of the product areyou using and where do you buy it ??

Anonymous said...

I used soy iso for the first time this cycle and went in for an ultrasound after receiving a positive opk and they could not find any eggs. Has anyone who has taken soy iso experienced this. I am thinking that it may have pushed my ovulation day back because I chart my bbt as well and my temps are still low. Which I am hoping means I still have a chance this month.

lie said...

i have been ttc for 5 yrs already. i really wanted to try on using soy isoflavones but i have very irregular periods so its hard for me to determine when can i take it. can i still take it even if i haven't got my period?

:) 4254 said...

Everyone's comments have been very helpful! My cousin told me about soy isoflavones, she told me 80mg on days 3-7 of your cycle then stop. I am going to try them next month. My husband and I had a miscarriage a year ago and nothing since, so my fingers are crossed! Good luck everyone!

Anonymous said...

Hi ladies. This is my first cycle trying SI. I decided to take mine on days 4 - 8. I ovulate on my own but have a weak thermal shift and very low progesterone with spotting. I am hoping this will lead to a stronger ovulation and better egg. I also have low estrogen at beginning of cycle and elevated FSH already due to POF. Been TTC 1 year now and just started cycle 15. Hope this helps so I can finally be a mom. Me 38 & hubby 48. Good luck to all!

Sister H & Sister K said...

Hi Ladies!
So I've been having the haunting feeling all week that maybe I'll never be able to get prego and then I stumbled upon this blog and I feel so much better after reading this post!! I'm excited to try this and hopefully it works! My sister and I wrote about our struggles as well! theinfertilesisters.blogspot.com
Sincerely,
Sister H

Anonymous said...

I started this month after 9 months ttc. Took 120x2, 160x2, 200x1 cd2-6. I ov'd
cd15 like I do every month but had very strong symptoms. TONS of ewcm, cramping, and ov.pains along with +opk:) I am now 4dpo so I will come back and update if I get my bfp! GL to all you ladies.

RONECO said...

so ive been reading all ur comments and decided to try this stuff. ive been TTC for about 2 years now. im gonna try it on days 3-7. hope this works.......

Anonymous said...

I have too been searching out soy iso, first heard about it on Fertility Friend (FF) where I do all my charting. I just started two days ago, CD3-7, 80mgx1, 120mgx2, 160mgx2. I take them at night as most have suggested. My last cycle was a whopping 75day and very curious to see what happens this cycle! My DH and I were blessed with our miracle baby 21months ago (after a novena) and would LOVE to have more, I'll be 40yrs old this Oct and we decided to keep "trying" when I turn 43.
Signed: Rosie/Pittsburgh, PA

Anonymous said...

Update: My first cycle on SI was a bust. I took 80, 120, 120, 160, 160 on days 4 - 8. I am now on my second cycle on SI. Here is what I changed. I took 120, 120, 160, 160, 200 on days 3-7 this time. I am currently waiting to ovulate. I will report back any new updates.

tonya said...

update: hi i posted here awhile back and i took soy for 2 months and i had a tubal reversal and tried to conceive 2 years after that with no luck,well anyway i took for 2 months and happy to say im 30 weeks preg.with a healthy baby boy,and i will be 40 when i deliver so good luck to all i hope this is some encouragement....

Anonymous said...

Hi, this is my second time taking the soy pills. Last month I took them on CD 1-5 and they didn't work for me. Perhaps that's because I was only taking 2 pills a day. I am starting themn again this month and I will take 200 mg so hope this works. My husband and I have been tryoing for a while now and its so hard to keep being let down... Hope this works!!

seelya said...

Hello ladies.I have pcos and rarely get my periods,i have pcos 12 years now and is ttcing for 10 years,i have done lots of research on herbal supplements such as soy iso and so i decided to give it a try,i was on cd68 and no sign of af so i decided to give soy i try to see if it will make me ovulate being that when you O you either get pregnant or get your pregnant.my brand is one that has 23mg of soy so i took 5 on days 1 and 2 then took 7 on day 3 and 9 on days 4 and 5.i had no side effect but maybe headache,i did have some cramps on the 3rd day of taking them and my boobs got tender,i also got ewcm for the first time.Today is 5 days after taking the last soy iso and i think i am about to O anytime now,i am also charting. Good luck to you ladies and baby dust to you all.

seelya said...

ment get pregnant or get your period.

Anonymous said...

Three years ago I used clomid and progesterone on our first round it worked. I had a beautiful baby boy. Know I want to try a natural way so I decide to try soy isoflavones from vitamin world. CD 4-6 120mg 7-8 200 mg.. CD8 and on I will be on vitex due to miscarrying low progesterone levels. I plan to take till three month and placenta takes over or period comes. currently I am on day three, I will keep you guys update.. so fare no side effect feel great, pray for me :)

emoreno

Anonymous said...

Well i wanted to update.... I did two rounds of the soy and I just got a positive test!!! Still very early but we are very excited! !! Good luck everyone! ;)

MMC said...

Wow! Congrats to everyone who got BFP. I'm trying now for a while, Going to see my doc soon, if I don't get my period by then, he'll give me a script for prov, then I'll take SI...can't wait for the BFP... added this page as my Home page now, so will keep you posted, thanks EVERYONE for your posts, it created a big smile in my heart, as I was getting tired of taking clomid, took it more than 7 times (i think) already, and I hate taking tablets... :)

Anonymous said...

I did like the girl above. Starting soy iso on cd 3-7 starting spotting on cd13 and then on cd14 watery bright red flow... have had flow for the last two days. Does anyone know if that was a start of a new cycle and should i start soy iso again??? please any advice would help. Been ttc for 3 years and im 40yrs old...:-(

Lilita Rayne said...

It's an excellent story regarding fertility problems. Soy Isoflavone is the Natural Clomid and the best solution for this problem.